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:D LOVE ME

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Kaito on Shinichi :x

A LOT OF FEELINGS

THAT'S CHEATING

IT IS NOT

IS TOO, USE WORDS

LOTS OF THEM

AND THEN THERE WERE A LOT OF FEELINGS AND JEVA USED A LOT OF WORDS TO DESCRIBE THEM--AND THEN SHE HAD TO GET READY FOR WORK.

YOU OWE ME AN ESSAY

Okkok tl;dring while waiting/on bus.

So basically, there's a lot if the feelings like Jinx has about Red where he feels like Shinichi shouldn't have to deal with his bullshit crazy. i mean. can't even comfort detective without having his own triggers tripped. how fail is that? All he really wants is to have 5 FREAKIN' MINUTES without feeling like there's going to be something that sets him off. He's a lot more wanting to trust and rely on Shinichi now, especially after recent talk. But still some pfeelings nearing resentful since Shinichi always always prefers Kaito or Kid over him and that also makes thigs more complicated...

Shinichi has actually been a stablizing point for Kid, truth be told. mostly because after the entire triple homicide, Kid hasn't really been able to do much. there was definitely a period of time when he wanted to just roll over and just let Jinx do wtf ever because Kid isn't technically NEEDED. but detective interacts with the thief and there has been some healthier coping going on. basically, endearing him more to his detective :<

Finally, there's Kaito who's been doing the best of the three since he has both Red and Shinichi encouraging him. He's still very much denying and repressing what happened before he died, though, so it really tore into him when Shinichi continuously went on about Aoko and how Kaito felt he could have done something, anything to prevent what happened. So the breakdownish behavior at the end was Kaito coming close to that point of accepting there was nothing he could have done. buuuuuuuut opposite of his intentions, Shinichi encouraging him to have all the feelings made Kaito shy away feom them again. Basically, even with knowing that Shinichi has an idea of what's going on on his end, Kaito feels that he can't afford to completely fall to pieces... largely because, like I said, he's doing the best of the three hilariously.

In other words, Shinichi has been an awesome outlet and a good... friend? J-Jinx ia even starting to view him that way and there's likely to be more coping sessions like this. Mostly, seeing that Shinichi wasnt as together as he was acting helped wih giving the distraction of taking care of someone else while also showing that Shinichi gets it. Somewhat. Maybe enough...

REVERSE WHILE I GO I TUNNEL.

Goddd, there are. A lot of feelings in regards to Kaito. A LOT OF THEM.

To start off, it really is partially his fault that Shinichi ended up the way he did. NOT TO PUT THE BLAME ON HIM, PER SAY, but he worked endlessly until he could solve his murder and it just. It was like that last thread snapping in half. He was *not okay* after that, and while he recovered to an extent, it just. He wasn't the same. And he knew it! But he was able to function well enough until he died that it was never really an issue.

And now here he is, here's Kaito, and oh god he can't keep a hold on his feelings. At first, he had to legit go out and KILL SOMETHING just to get rid of them, and Kaito scolding him a bit in the process after that and them just . . . kind of bonding helped get over this instant OH GOD OH GOD feelings he was having.

And now they . . . flop on each other. They talk. They've had near-breakdowns on each other. Shinichi has told him so many things that only Apollo knows, and it's just. Not only because he's comfortable enough to tell Kaito it, but because he trusts him enough with it. It's like all that trust earned in Sabra times fifty.

And an aside, but there is a bit of guilt in all of this on Shinichi's side; mostly the what if kind, like there was some way he could have prevented all of it and none of this would've happened. That it took him so long to solve the case (legit guilt), that in a lot of ways, he's so messed up that he has no idea how to help Kaito, but he's going to try anyway.

In a lot of ways, Kaito has become that . . . person he regards as his other half. LIKE, not romantically speaking, Ran will always be the love of his life, but without Kaito around, without those occasional heists, the banter, hanging out in Sabra, it was like this huge chunk of his life was missing.

And to be honest, Shinichi does prefer Kid over Kaito and Jinx, but only because Kid is the one he's the most familiar with, and the one he can deal with the easiest. That isn't to say he likes any of them more or less, it's just his . . . comfort level, and how much he can deal with personally that makes him prefer one over the other.

But yes, he. Definitely had some sort of breakdown in front of Kaito, and while there is a lot of AWKWARD AND JUDGING TURNED INWARD it isn't . . . as bad as it could be. And in a way, he's kind of glad he did? Like, here Kaito, see, I'm not okay either, it's okay not to be okay sometimes, and just showing some more of that utter trust he has in him.

He really does want to offer Kaito to stay with them, but in a way, he . . . doesn't think he can be as supportive as he can be when they do get together. He has his own problems, he has this threshold of dealing with people, he sleeps horribly, and a lot of that he feels would be reminders to Kaito and give him reason to blame himself more. But if Kaito ever asked, he would never, ever, say no.

tl;dr he would basically do anything for Kaito, loev stupid thief, all the stupid feelings and trust and sob.

Pecha on Shinichi!

Oh durr. i probably should have commented that Kaito DOES feel responsible for Shinichi being as messed up as he is and the whole talk definitely emphasized that point which is another reason he works to calm him down from breakdown levels. Detective does not need more reminders than he already has.

Pecha finds Shinichi to be useful. he's always seen Quartz to be a capable kid in Sabra but with the year after Sabra difference, Pecha is aware of an alignment shift which of course means that capable detective is more willing to play game if Pecha plays his cards right. Admittedly, Pecha knows he fumbled up a bit when offering a trade and knows Shinichi isn't likely to forget the faux pas, so he's mostly been biding his time and watching developments. he IS aware not to poke about the thief and that Shinichi has pulled somethibg (not sure what) that agitated the Hydraculans in Apt. E. So overall, Pecha's just been quiet and watching--Sabrs people in general but like I said. Shinichi's one of the more useful ones.

Reveeeeerse.

ODDLY ENOUGH, Shinichi feels about the same. Pecha is useful, and he was very good at gathering information in Sabra, so he sees Pecha more as a means of information and gossip he may or may not be able to hear himself.

I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE SELFISH Kaito on Ikki being here? Since they . . . haven't threaded all that much

Kaito would be more bummed out about Ikki being in Thusia if he weren't already bummed out about ANY of them being in Thusia. Admittedly, Kaito's been kind of selfish and self-focused lately, so he hasn't really poked his head out from his comfort zones--i.e. Red and Shinichi--and gone out to see the other Sabra folk in Thusia... but yeah, he's just. bummed out in general.

In some way, there's a bit of a guilty relief that people familiar to Kaito are there in Thusia, and Ikki's definitely one of those people. He just. probably won't visit very often until he's... somewhat. stable again. so as to not rub crazy everywhere '-'a

IKKI'S FEELINGS ON OBITO BEING IN THUSIA AND THE IDEA OF SOMEONE WHO KNEW OBITO BEING THERE TELLING HIM THINGS?

A LOT OF FEELINGS AND A LOT OF UNSURE AND ALSO SOME GOOD THINGS

He hates the idea that Obito is there because he should have LIVED and ughhh it really hit him hard because Lark is his tiny and he really did feel like he was more of a little brother than anything, and - that is something RARE for Ikki, it's always older brother figures but. So Obito dying is like another mark on his list of FAIL, couldn't even protect his teammate ;;

But then here's Kakashi who knows him and - while he doesn't want Kakashi to tell him certain things, not yet - this is someone from Lark's past who could be . . . good for him. and Kakashi seems like a decent guy, if Ikki didn't like him he wouldn't have gone hunting for him and all, but. And well, Kakshi said they used to be teammates iirc and that's super important in Ikki's mind, so.

KAKASHI'S THOUGHTS ON IKKI AND OBITO AND BEING IN MURDERCAVE AND ETC

LOVE ME

H-haha... Obito showing up when he did was actually a GOOD THING. Basically, since Kakashi was sort of doing that thing he does sometimes where he triez to take everything on at once instead of working through things--which almost killed him. Again. On his first day. But Obito showing up basically put a huge pause on that sort of behavior because h-haha... kid who gave his life to save yours so long ago...

In short, Kakashi has all the feelings abot Obito being in Thusia but most especially hearing that he had been to this Sabra La Tau place, which sounds pretty hellish even with what little Kakashi has heard of it (barely anything)--and the eyepatch over his left eye tells Kakashi that he went there AFTER dying...

Kakashi may have had an easier time of processing this if Obito had all of his memories, but since he doesn't, there's a whole lot of feeling that one-sided friendship and Kakashi can't explain it because that would lead to talking about Obito's death which Ikki made him promise not to tell Obito. Toss in the fact that everyone Obito knew back in Konoha is dead except for Kakashi who CANNOT tell Obito (well he CAN but it's more that he's not wanting to ruin the little comfort his ignorance of things are)... yeah. Whole lot of awkward, secretive jounin behavior.

Kakashi does try to take comfort that in spite of all the terrible, Obito had another team to support him--one of whom is in Thusia, but at the same time, the differences and changes between the Kakashi of back then and the Kakashi now are pretty noticeable. And hat's somehing Kakashi himself is aware of but can't just tell the kid "You jesus'd me into having a purpose in living besides rules and law of ninja and you're the reason I even really lived this long" because... Obito doesn't remember and it would mean tripping onto the terrible topics. Derp.

Instead, Kakashi's going to just be pretty damn overprotective of Obito and may even offer to help Obito with relearning ninjutsu and other things if he asks. '-\\

reeeeeverse?

Edited 2012-02-06 03:40 (UTC)

He really doesn't know what to make of Kakashi, to be honest. For starters, he doesn't identify as Obito, but as Lark. It's going to take a little bit before he even responds to Obito and even then it's going to be weird for him, because to him, it's like responding to somebody else's name. He's kinda wondering if the things he'll do would be the same that Obito would do and what Kakashi would make of it.

Plus, his feelings towards Kakashi are mixed. His first two memories were positive memories of Kakashi (the fight against the rock-nin and getting the Sharingan) but then he got the memory of traveling with Kakashi and Rin. I don't know if the anime gets into a bit more detail with it, but it was just a couple panels of them. traveling, so I just headcanon it was normal interaction between the two: so bickering and Rin stepping in to calm them down. So, he was confused. "THIS WAS A GUY I WAS FRIENDS WITH? I COULDN'T STAND HIM"

Right now, he's dealing with Kakashi as a mixture of the two. IT'S JUST. EASIER THAT WAY OKOK

Not to mention, Obito is very confused on what to make about Kakashi's age. They were around the same age, so why is it now that Kakashi is an old man and he's the same age. At the same time, he still doesn't know why he only has one eye. He figures that Kakashi will know, but is not telling him. He wants to know what happened to his eye and he wants to know why they're not the same age. Does time in murdercave differ? Or........?

... would Kakashi want Obito to get all his memories back if he had the opportunity?

Tooo be honest, no. No he would not. At least, not without Lark thinking it over and weighing things out. Kakashi is really very aware that Lark doesn't remember much about the ninja world or how bad things turned out, and in a way the amnesia's a bit of a mercy, but on the other hand, he also knows that to go without those memories would be a denial of self. So it would be entirely up to Lark if he wanted to completely remember Obito or not.

More selfishly, Kakashi wouldn't want it to happen at the first opportunity because that would mean Obito would know what questions to ask and that would mean Kakashi can either a) keep dodging answers for a while longer, b) straight up lie, or c) tell the truth. And all options kind of suck. So. Yeah.

What's Obito's feelings on memories or lack-thereof? Also how does feel about being in Thusia in the first place?

His memories are tricky for him. He wants to know, because he wants to know more about himself, who he is, what happened to him, all that. But at the same time, he's worried because he's been through so much and he doesn't know how he has changed will match up with Obito. He doesn't want to see how badly murdercave fucked him up.

And he hates the fact he's in Thusia. He died during the Sabra bad end and he feels like he didn't do enough to help. He spent 60 days as a giant ant and came back just in time for the end. He wanted to do as much as possible to save everyone, but in the end it was for nothing. He died, but more importantly, his team died and he could do nothing to stop that.

Okay, Kakashi's reactions to Obito being a demon cannibal and/or giant ant.

... giant ant gets a whole lot of BUH?

The demon cannibal... that would be a lot more complicated. Mostly because he knows the kind of person Obito is--with or without memories, Kakashi pretty much figures he knows who this kid is at his base personality--and that person is not someone who likes to hurt others. Rather, more will do a lot to protect others. And the idea that a god essentially forced something like that onto a person like that is pretty much terrifying and rage-inducing. But since there's nothing he can do about it since the god responsible isn't in Thusia... pretty much Kakashi will want to do what he can to reassure Obito that he definitely NOT THAT PERSON and it wasn't his fault, etc etc...

Basically, FEELINGS and a horrible sinking sensation that all of this happened while Kakashi had been thinking he was peacefully at rest. H-haha...

Obito finds out all the terrible things that happened after he died--what do?

... that was not the icon i wanted

AND IT WAS ALSO ALL YOUR FAULT TOO KAKASHI

But yeah, he'll be in a bit of shock. Sensei gave up his life to save Konoha and then Itachi, his cousin/nephew thing killing his entire family. He'll just be unsure of what to make of everything. The first one he is more okay with, only because it's Sensei and he only pictured him dying from either saving Konoha or of old age. But the Uchiha Massacre will just floor him. His family may not have liked him all that much, but they were still family and he loved them and DAMNIT ITACHI I FUCKING CHANGED YOUR DIAPERS MAYBE.

Kakashi on him dying?

EVERYONE DIED AND IT'S MY FAULT. NOOOO--I mean. Well. We still technically don't know what happened to Rin '-\\

Obito is not allowed to die on Kakashi's watch ever while in Thusia. And he's especially not allowed to give up his life for Kakashi again. So yeah. um. Yeah. Self-preservation spikes way down in that kind of situation and yeeeaaah.

Basically, Kakashi's never really gotten over Obito's death and then hearing he died in a place that was terrible is a lot lot worse.

As for Kakashi himself... he's really in a bad place in regards to himself dying. He's always figured he'd die young and even while he's not as young as he thought he would be, he would have been okay with dying. It's a thing that happens. He's been ready for it likely since he was first made a chuunin at age 6. So death itself does not bother him. What BOTHERS him is that he died... and now he's alive in some place NOT one of the Five Nations and there's still a war going on, he was in charge of an entire division, and he can't do ANYTHING. He can't go back to Konoha, he can't lead in the war, he can't stop Sasuke and Naruto from killing each other, he can't even stay dead--it's like the ultimate failure.

Like: GOOD JOB, your entire team died except for you! GOOD JOB, one of your students betrayed your village and your other two students have already attempted to kill him/declared that they will die together! GOOD JOB, you died in the middle of an important war where your leadership was important--BUT OH WAIT, LOLOL, GOOD JOB, YOU'RE NOT REALLY DEAD BUT YOU CAN'T DO JACKSHIT ANYMORE :'D

So he deliberately keeps himself from thinking about it, but it's always at the back of his mind, and that's why he's been a lot more reckless already in Thusia than he would be back home. There's really just no point other than what he tells himself--and right now, making sure people who want their second chance get their second chance and making sure Obito is safe are pretty much the two things that are keeping Kakashi on track.

Obito's views of Thusia so far? What's his plans/does he have any yet?

EXPRESS KAKASHI'S FEELINGS ON OBITO THROUGH INTERPRETIVE DANCE

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Okay, I'll admit I lost track of what I was doing just now.

Oh right.

TALK ABOUT AERTA'S THOUGHTS ON APARTMENT JUSTICE?

FIRST IMPRESSIONS Kaito on Aella 8U

Kaito mistook her for Trixie for... a very short time. It's very clear to him that she's NOT her but there is the awkwardness where he resembles her brother and Aerta basically calling him a bad person for showing up with his own face. Which kind of effected how Kaito approached Aella a lot, so he'll always be a bit skittish around her, but he likes her so far! She seems pretty level and able to cope with all of the things going on, which is actually a pretty cool thing. Still thinks she has questionable taste in ice cream though.

But overall, he likes her and wouldn't mind hanging around her...

REVERSE?

Edited 2012-02-06 00:46 (UTC)

THERE IS CLEARLY SOMETHING VERY WRONG HERE

But okay I'm skipping ahead. Basically? Aella is legit over her little ;sdfj over Jinx looking a lot like Kaelen. \o/; She took that huge gaping wound and stuck it into the fire, and… well, that's that. Honestly, thanks to her time in Thusia, she has gotten good at pinpointing the differences; it makes things easier for all involved, and for somebody like her, who doesn't want to dwell at all ever? YEAH IT'S KIND OF A+. She isn't really sure what to call him, though. :|a

She wants to try to get to know him, just like she got to know Shinichi. Not in any formal, thought out, I WILL DO THIS sense; it's just a feeling that she's following, if a little vaguely. She'll bug him when she sees him, and he's always welcome in apartment C as far as she's concerned… … and now that she's seen how he is with Shinichi, she might push bits of food at him.

Personality-wise, he seems pretty okay and like he could be a lot of fun. But he also seems very… not okay. She won't approach it because why the hell would she, but his speech patterns and mannerisms kkkind of paint a big ol' neon 'BOY IS SCREWED UP' sign. And she's definitely noticed that he's skittish around her, which she is kind of '/sigh' about.

Kaito on Hydracula?

Kaito's views on Hydracula are pretty much the same as they were in Sabra, the only exception being that he knows he literally cannot live with them at this point in time. With Hydracula, he is Jinx, and Jinx is not stable at all and Hydracula just sometimes really fails at knowing how to handle feelings and situations like those--or so Jinx STILL OPERATES UNDER. Especially when it's people like Lucky and Scowl... neither of which are the ones he got along with most and-or went to about these issues.

He's more than a bit upset that there's a number of them already in Thusia despite how they'd managed to be survivor types all throughout the games in Sabra, but. Well...

Basically, he misses his teams but on the other hand, he knows he is so not in the right frame of mind to take living with them 24-7 again right now '-'a

Aella's favorite things about Thusia so far: GO.

APARTMENT C APARTMENT C APARTMENT C. She loves her new home, loves her silly new makeshift family, loves doing things for them and painting all over the walls with them, ALL THE LOVE. '-' She has really, really grown attached—like, properly attached. The only one who kiiind of falls outside of that is Sherlock, but she still likes him. And they, collectively, make her love being in Thusia, as much as she'd still rather be home/trying to change fate with her clan.

Trixie and Aoko both show up. TELL ME WHAT THE FEELINGS ARE.

So how epic is the challenge waiting to happen going to be-- i mean.

How are all your characters adapting to Thusia? What are their thoughts in general?

Himitsu.

As for the second question:

Pecha is is Pecha and doesn't afraid of these hilariously terrible places he has been to. Mostly, he's been taking his time getting a feel for the place and the people constantly coming in. These places just have the one thing that will keep him entertained forever: humans being humans. Gosh. And these places encourage the desperate and instinctive things so he can just sit back and enjoy mostly. He is completely chill. Except if you ask him how he feels about having died. Then he's just :)

Kaito, on the other hand, isn't coping half so well. He came out of one terrible situation, landed himself into another one that got him and the person he loves killed, and now he's in a place that resembles Sabra. Yeah. Uh. Stability is not here. He is getting he support he really desperately needs right now but it'll be a long time since before he's ever really OKAY with anything about Thusia ever. '-'

Kakashi has a weird balance going on. Mostly, he's pretty chill but there is some anxiety mostly due to the whole Soldier Taken Out Of The Battle Before It Was Won thing going on in addition to having to come to terms with his perceived failure with Team 7 and whatnot. So basically he's been focusing on the needs of the people currently around him and had determined that he would at least last long enough to help those people taking advantage of the second chance that Thusia offers. And then Obito showed up. ... and then people asking for him to teach them ninja things. ... 8| Generally, he's still pretty chill outwardly but there's now awkwardness, irritation, and restlessness. But. Still wanting to do his part. sigh.

Reverse! How your characters doing?

Ciel is actually surprisingly doing quite well, especially for someone who is being so deeply in denial as he is. He doesn't mind being in a potentially terrible place because... he's always in potentially terrible situations, anyway. There are a number of things he absolutely hates, but all in all he actually is in a pretty good mental status. A good part of this though is because he doesn't quite believe he's dead, or that the people in Thusia are all dead for the matter, so hasn't had to come to terms to "wow, I died without obtaining my revenge". He thinks something's up and that for those who do remember dying, the gods must be fiddling with their minds or something. He does keep experiencing that feeling of "no I died for sure", but he's basically using that as the greatest proof to himself that yeah, this must be fabricated. Because he doesn't remember dying, and he trusts his mind rather than his feelings, and if there's a feeling like that without it being associated to his mind, it can't be coming from him at all. IT IS LATE SO THIS MAY NOT MAKE SENSE. But basically, Ciel is doing really well, his problems in adapting are more related to having to get used to another lifestyle than anything else. His thoughts in general are just along the lines of "I am rolling with this and doing what I have to do to keep surviving, but I am plotting all the things gdit". Basically he is watching things and waiting for a chance to fix things.

Santa is not really adapting! Thusia annoys more than Sabra because with Sabra at least, things were upfront shitty and he had learned how to deal with that. With Thusia, the not knowing is really annoying him greatly. He doesn't like being thrown from the hands of a set of Gods to another, and he doesn't like basically being useless, because in Sabra he had his routine and did some minor hunting and stuff, but also he could handle himself in games. In Thusia there aren't games and there just isn't a chance. Which isn't to say that he misses games, because he doesn't, but he's been feeling like he has no purpose. The fact the people he cares the most for are all in Thusia now makes it worse, because he's like, wow fuck everything, no nice things ever. Because yes, he's happy to see his sister again, for example, but. She died again even in the timeline they did make it and got their wishes! So right now in general is in this place where he just. doesn't know what he's supposed to do. There's a end goal-- he wants to defeat the gods and find an exit! But anything in between that, he doesn't know. His general thoughts are as said before "FUCK EVERYTHING", pretty much.

Ling has a lot of thoughts and mixed feelings about Thusia. Like I said in my question meme what happened in the Nature post helped a lot, it shook him out of a really bad state, but there are still a lot of things going through his head, basically. Mostly issues related to having died without accomplishing what he set out to do, and trying to find worth in living a life where the one thing he wanted above all just isn't something he can even wish for anymore. Ling has a ridiculously easy time adapting to various situations though, so despite that he's doing pretty well. He's been occupying his time talking with a lot of people, finding things out and so on, but he's also definitely feeling restless and the fact he can't get himself in any danger right now is making it particularly hard to deal with. But yeah in general, he is doing okay.

So how would Kakashi react if all of Team 7 showed up in Thusia

. . . try to keep Sasuke and Naruto from killing each other?

This is a legit answer.

Mostly there'd be so many mixed feelings I can't even.

Mostly trying to keep Sasuke from homiciding everyone and keeping Obito away from himor idk.

Unless you mean like. tiny team 7. in which case w-what.

Also beginnings of possible headcold makes describing feelings hard....

Tell me idk Ling's feelings on teammates comraderie rroommates etcetc...

...Now I do imagine tiny team 7 in thusia oh god it would be so awful.

AS FOR THE ANSWER. Ling's feelings on teammates and comraderie are real serious business. Like, for example, he throws the word "friend" around easily-- when he meets Edward again at the shop Winry works at he's like OH COME ON I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS :DDDD, even though it's pretty obvious not even him thinks that and he just wants to know about the Philosopher's stone. But when he uses the word comrade it's always very passionate and it's clear it has a important meaning for him (or well that's what I'm going to distinguish "tomodachi" and "nakama" with my very awful knowledge of moonrunes). He takes the bond very seriously and like he says to Greed, he thinks comrades are bound by their very souls, so it's definitely something that for him means a great deal. Ling isn't a selfless person by any means, he's not a bad person and he regards people's life in general, but it's only really his clan and those he would consider his comrades that he puts above everything. He is very emotional when it comes to comraderie, and when he considers someone that important, he pulls no punches. He would yell and snap at comrades if he needs to because he cares that much, he would scold them, he would yell AT OTHER PEOPLE for them, and he would cry for them. So to end rambling about, Ling takes comraderie very seriously and that is not a word he'd thrown around easily, because he puts a lot of significance in it, and the moment he considers someone a comrade it means he's ready to lie down his life for them.

He has never really been in a team, per se, though this makes me think that he would have been amazing to play in a team based game, because I can easily see him as the most annoying ever but also incredibly dedicated and loyal to his team.

AS FOR ROOMMATES. I don't think he's ever had a roommate at all, unless you want to count Fu and Ran Fan definitely watching over him while he sleeps (...or Greed, if you count his body as an apartment I guess), so that's a really new concept for him. He isn't putting much weight to the idea of "this is the person I live with", because for him it was more a convenient arrangement than anything else! But considering the chances of having to work together, do things together and so on, I can see him easily relating "roommates" to "comrades" with time.

Also I think I know the answer but I want to hear kakashi's feelings on those too :O